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		<title>Yahoo! security support update &#8211; HeartsongStudios.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sol Young</dc:creator>
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<p>After a pretty <a href="http://solyoung.com/2008/03/09/yahoo-security-support-sucks-with-a-capital-s/" title="My earlier blog entry">bad experience</a> with Yahoo!&#8217;s merchant services security support while getting <a href="http://www.heartsongstudios.com/">HeartsongStudios.com</a> online, the site is finally up and running. Yahoo! does a decent job at outsourcing their support to work-at-home representatives. The one I got, Max, was nice enough.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s over&#8230; Now my father&#8217;s site can start working for him.&#8230;</p>]]></description>
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<p>After a pretty <a href="http://solyoung.com/2008/03/09/yahoo-security-support-sucks-with-a-capital-s/" title="My earlier blog entry">bad experience</a> with Yahoo!&#8217;s merchant services security support while getting <a href="http://www.heartsongstudios.com/">HeartsongStudios.com</a> online, the site is finally up and running. Yahoo! does a decent job at outsourcing their support to work-at-home representatives. The one I got, Max, was nice enough.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad it&#8217;s over&#8230; Now my father&#8217;s site can start working for him.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo! security support sucks with a capital S</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sol Young</dc:creator>
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<p>Most of you know I rarely go out of my way to publicly voice such a negative opinion as I&#8217;m about to issue. Especially against a company for which: a) I hold stock, and b) I believe is one of the best large companies in Silicon Valley.</p>
<p>Today I signed up for <a href="http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com">Yahoo! Merchant Services</a>&#8230;</p>]]></description>
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<p>Most of you know I rarely go out of my way to publicly voice such a negative opinion as I&#8217;m about to issue. Especially against a company for which: a) I hold stock, and b) I believe is one of the best large companies in Silicon Valley.</p>
<p>Today I signed up for <a href="http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com">Yahoo! Merchant Services</a> for my father&#8217;s <a href="http://www.heartsongstudios.com">HeartsongStudios.com</a> (a small time marimba making studio in Northern Cali). I&#8217;ve used Y!&#8217;s store system with partner sites at <a href="http://www.iofy.com">iofy</a>, such as <a href="http://www.thelanguagestop.com">TheLanguageStop.com</a> (a foreign language and ELT/ESL specialty store). I like Yahoo!&#8217;s store product and recommend it to others.</p>
<p>The signup process was a piece of cake. Zipped through the steps until the moment after my credit card was processed. At that point the added Security Key was requested. Since no security key had been initiated for the account, I was asked for information to generate a new one.
<ul>
<li>First question: &#8220;What is your name?&#8221; &#8211; duhhh&#8230;</li>
<li>Second question, &#8220;When is your birthday?&#8221; &#8211; better, but easily available on Facebook and elsewhere.</li>
<li>Third question: &#8220;What is your favorite city?&#8221; &#8211; I don&#8217;t remember, I&#8217;ll put in my hometown.</li>
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<p>The third answer was wrong. I&#8217;ve had my Y! account almost as long as Y! has been in business. It&#8217;s probably a secret question I set a long time ago. Getting the third question wrong one time locked me out of merchant services and prompted to call Y!&#8217;s security team. Fine.</p>
<p>The wait time was minimal on the phone. As soon as a Y! human was on the line things went downhill. Here is an almost exact transcript of the conversation which took place. Names of people and places are replaced so you don&#8217;t get any ideas for h4c|&lt;ing me, and so Y! doesn&#8217;t discipline the rep without learning more:</p>
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Mindy: &#8220;Hello, this is Mindy with Yahoo!&#8217;s security team, may I have your name?&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;Sol Young.&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;May I call you by your first name?&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;Sure.&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;How can I help you Sol?&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;I was generating my security key and was locked out when I couldn&#8217;t answer my favorite city. Can we get it straightened out?&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;Sure, what is your name?&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;Sol Young.&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;And when is your birthday?&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;December 31st, 1976.&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;And what is your favorite city?&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;I don&#8217;t remember my favorite city. Can I prove my identity in some other way?&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;No sir, you must answer the three questions in order to get your security key. Your name, your birthday, and your favorite city. Do you remember your favorite city?&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;Bahrain?&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;No.&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;Jakarta? Cabo? Honolulu?&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;No. No. No.&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;Prague? London? Amsterdam? Montreal? New York? San Francisco? Portland?&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;No. No. No. No. No. No. No.&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;Bangladesh? Saint Petersburg? Miami? Bizmark? Copenhagen? Frankfurt? Kiev? New Orleans? La Quinta? Oklahoma City? Sacramento? Rotterdam? Lincoln? Mount Shasta? Juno? Plymouth? Jacksonville?&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;I can tell you every detail of my personal preferences for every Yahoo! service. I could tell you about the series of photographs in my Flickr account which are labeled as private. I can give you my credit card numbers and more. Isn&#8217;t this a little ridiculous?&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;No sir, we can not validate by those methods. If you would like we can escalate your request to the higher levels of our security team. They will be able to get back to you within 3 to 5 business days&#8230;&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;Three to five days?&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;Yes.&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;That&#8217;s a long time. Yahoo! is an Internet company, what&#8217;s up with that?&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;No, Yahoo! is not an Internet company.&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;Sure it is. It&#8217;s one of the largest in Silicon Valley.&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;Yahoo! is <em>not</em> an Internet company. I can escalate your request?&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;Do I have a choice?&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;Not unless you can remember your favorite city. Can I get your phone number and an email address which is not your Yahoo! email address?&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;215-&#8230;-&#8230;., and yahoo {4t} solyoung.com.&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;I&#8217;m going to need another email address which isn&#8217;t connected to your Yahoo! account.&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;Ok, I didn&#8217;t realize that was connected to my Yahoo! account. You can use yahoo2 {4t} solyoung.com.&#8221;<br/><br />
Mindy: &#8220;Sir?&#8230;&#8221;<br/><br />
Me: &#8220;Sorry, yahoo3 {4t} solyoung.com, yahoo4 {4t} solyoung.com, yahoo5 {4t} solyoung.com. Any of those would be fine.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I love Yahoo! as a company. You&#8217;ll hear me frequently talking them up with friends and collegues and I own Y! stock. Y!&#8217;s strength is in their agility and ingenuity. This kind of lousy experience is the kind of thing which brings a company to its knees. Every level of an organization must understand how they affect and provide for their customers.</p>
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		<title>Google Contact API finally here</title>
		<link>http://solyoung.com/2008/03/05/google-contact-api-finally-here/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sol Young</dc:creator>
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<p><a href="http://www.cartwrightreed.com">Cart</a> dropped a note about long anticipated API addition at Google (so long that most people forgot about they might even still be working on it). Google now has a <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/contacts/" title="Google Contacts API">contact API</a>. This is huge news because up until now only Yahoo! offered a good synchronization service.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a Yahoo! Address Book fan &#8230;</p>]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.cartwrightreed.com">Cart</a> dropped a note about long anticipated API addition at Google (so long that most people forgot about they might even still be working on it). Google now has a <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/contacts/" title="Google Contacts API">contact API</a>. This is huge news because up until now only Yahoo! offered a good synchronization service.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a Yahoo! Address Book fan for years because of their service, especially how it <a href="http://solyoung.com/2008/02/08/yahoo-components-that-matter-to-me-after-no-search/" title="My post praising Yahoo's Go (and other services)">integrates with their Go service</a>. With Google&#8217;s API we&#8217;ll see apps that start synchronization between these two, as well as any other service out there. This is fantastic!</p>
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		<title>Nokia and Yahoo!?</title>
		<link>http://solyoung.com/2008/02/17/nokia-and-yahoo/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sol Young</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://solyoung.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/mobile-diversity.jpg" align="right" height="187" width="250" vspace="10" hspace="10" /><a href="http://twitter.com/timoreilly" title="Twitter: Tim O'Reilly">Tim O&#8217;Reilly</a> twittered <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/02/the_top_5_reaso.html" title="Link to InformationWeek">this article</a> on the five reasons Nokia should put a bid in on Yahoo!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d go for that. I&#8217;ve <a href="http://solyoung.com/2008/02/08/yahoo-components-that-matter-to-me-after-no-search/">written about what I like about Yahoo!</a> and the reasons I like them as a company without search. Nokia making a play for Yahoo! makes sense. It creates a strong combination as a &#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://solyoung.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/mobile-diversity.jpg" align="right" height="187" width="250" vspace="10" hspace="10" /><a href="http://twitter.com/timoreilly" title="Twitter: Tim O'Reilly">Tim O&#8217;Reilly</a> twittered <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/02/the_top_5_reaso.html" title="Link to InformationWeek">this article</a> on the five reasons Nokia should put a bid in on Yahoo!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d go for that. I&#8217;ve <a href="http://solyoung.com/2008/02/08/yahoo-components-that-matter-to-me-after-no-search/">written about what I like about Yahoo!</a> and the reasons I like them as a company without search. Nokia making a play for Yahoo! makes sense. It creates a strong combination as a mobile platform company from two forward thinking complimentary companies&#8230;</p>
<p>So unlikely, yet I couldn&#8217;t hope for a better Yahoo! suitor. I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll be seeing mobile manufacturers picking up more of the web-co&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo! &#8211; components that matter to me after no search</title>
		<link>http://solyoung.com/2008/02/08/yahoo-components-that-matter-to-me-after-no-search/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sol Young</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://solyoung.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ygm.jpg" align="right" height="148" width="189" vspace="5" hspace="5" alt="YGM" />The news of the week (month/year?) is the $44.6 billion offer from Microsoft to acquire Yahoo!. Robert Scoble <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/02/04/what-you-all-are-missing-about-google/" title="What you are all missing about Google">blogs the intelligence of Google&#8217;s email</a> and Dave Winer drops <a href="http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/02/06/shouldYahooAcceptMicrosoft.html" title="Should Yahoo! accept Microsoft's offer?">thoughts  on Yahoo&#8217;s options</a> based on <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com">TechCrunch</a> blogger <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/decision-time-for-yahoo/">Mike Arrington&#8217;s analysis</a>. Mike Arrington&#8217;s <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/08/yahoo-board-to-determine-fate-of-company-today/" title="Only two choices">latest news</a> is a bit disheartening. Either sell to Microsoft or sell their &#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://solyoung.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ygm.jpg" align="right" height="148" width="189" vspace="5" hspace="5" alt="YGM" />The news of the week (month/year?) is the $44.6 billion offer from Microsoft to acquire Yahoo!. Robert Scoble <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/02/04/what-you-all-are-missing-about-google/" title="What you are all missing about Google">blogs the intelligence of Google&#8217;s email</a> and Dave Winer drops <a href="http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/02/06/shouldYahooAcceptMicrosoft.html" title="Should Yahoo! accept Microsoft's offer?">thoughts  on Yahoo&#8217;s options</a> based on <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com">TechCrunch</a> blogger <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/06/decision-time-for-yahoo/">Mike Arrington&#8217;s analysis</a>. Mike Arrington&#8217;s <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/08/yahoo-board-to-determine-fate-of-company-today/" title="Only two choices">latest news</a> is a bit disheartening. Either sell to Microsoft or sell their search to Google.</p>
<p>Yahoo! has a lot more than search to offer &#8211; it shouldn&#8217;t be their primary business. As Scoble and Winer both pointed out, the wars are being fought on platforms &#8211; Especially the mobile platform. Yahoo!&#8217;s Go service synchronizes calendars, contacts, etc, from phone or PC and runs on Windows, OS X, <a href="http://sites.mobile.yahoo.com/blackberry">BlackBerry</a>, <a href="http://mobile.yahoo.com/go">Symbian (Nokia)</a>, and <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/default.mspx" title="Windows Mobile">Windows Mobile</a>. Heck, it runs on almost every phone out there and OS X has Yahoo Sync built in. It&#8217;s been over a year since I&#8217;ve synchronized my phone by wire and I&#8217;m able to keep three phones and two laptops in sync.</p>
<p>Dave Winer shares insight from past technology wars while <a href="http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/02/05/beenHereBefore.html" title="Been here before">asking which platform will be adopted as the standard for synchronization</a> of contacts, social networking, etc. I argue it could be Yahoo!. They&#8217;re <a href="http://developer.yahoo.net/blog/archives/2008/01/openid-support-at-yahoo.html" title="OpenID Support at Yahoo!">embracing OpenID</a> and offering <a href="http://pipes.yahoo.com/" title="Pipes">Pipes</a>. The Go service has plugins which tie in to MySpace and other social networking sites. They&#8217;ve got an identity system, a delivery method, and a decent reach in to the mobile market.</p>
<p>Finally, Yahoo&#8217;s two destinations &#8211; <a href="http://new.music.yahoo.com/" title="Yahoo! Music">Yahoo! Music</a> and <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com" title="Yahoo! Finance">Yahoo! Finance</a>. These two are both number 1 in their class. Numero Uno. Why? They have content. Google offers search &#8211; when you&#8217;re looking for content. Yahoo!&#8217;s Music and Finance (and other sites) have that content.</p>
<p>These are the Yahoo! products that matter to me and the reason I&#8217;m a Yahoo! shareholder. If the sale goes through I&#8217;ll happily cash out with a profit and start looking elsewhere for services that satisfy consumer need.</p>
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